Spooky Coop

The Succubus

Episode Summary

In **Episode 64 of** **Spooky Coupe**, hosts **Paul and Michelle** explore the unsettling world of **succubi, incubi, and night entities** that have terrified humanity across centuries. Moving beyond medical explanations like standard sleep paralysis, the hosts examine the paranormal history, physical reality, and parasitic nature of these sleep-time intrusions.

Episode Notes

Show Notes & Episode Overview

Episode: #64
Hosts: Paul and Michelle
Topics: Succubi, Incubi, Parasitic Entities, Transhistorical Case Studies, and Energy Protection

Episode Overview

In Episode 64 of Spooky Coupe, hosts Paul and Michelle explore the unsettling transhistorical phenomenon of succubi and incubi. While modern medical approaches often categorize nocturnal encounters as simple sleep paralysis, this episode shifts the lens toward the paranormal reality of malevolent entities that have targeted sleeping humans across centuries, borders, and eras. Moving beyond clinical dismissals, Paul and Michelle analyze two chilling case studies separated by nearly 300 years, examine ancient folklore and medieval treatises, and share essential host guidance for protecting your energy from parasitic entities.

Key Discussion Points & Case Studies

1. The 1742 London Shipping Clerk (Thomas)

2. The 2023 Chicago Software Developer (Sarah)

3. Historical & Cultural Framework

4. Parasitic Nature & Energy Drain

Host Guidance & Protection Strategies

Episode Transcription

Episode 64 Transcript

Paul: [00:00:00] And we're gonna go in five, four, three, two, one. Hello, Michelle. Hey, Paul. Hi. Hi, guys. Hello, everybody out there. Thank you for joining us, everyone in North America- Come on

Michelle: in the Coop ...

Paul: and around the world, and once again, especially our listeners and viewers from Canada. Mm. Thank you for coming by. Today-

Michelle: In the Spooky Coop

Paul: in the Spooky Coop.

Michelle: We're gonna talk about those dreams that people have that are paranormal and creepy.

Paul: It's a phenomena that spans centuries, borders, and technological eras. It's an experience that makes the familiar safe space of your own bed feel like a trap.

Michelle: That's right, and it's terrifying, specifically terrifying.

Michelle: Yeah. We're gonna talk about those entities that people have called succubus, and-

Paul: The night hag ...

Michelle: yep, and incubus. Incubus. [00:01:00] The male version- Oh ... of the succubus. And Paul?

Paul: Yeah. So we have

Michelle: s- Luckily, I have never experienced this. No.

Paul: We have several ca- distinct cases today to look at. One of the, uh, soot-stained streets of 18th century London, and one of the sterile neon-lit high-rises of modern-day Chicago.

Paul: And despite 300 years separating them, the details are chillingly, impossibly identical. But before we get into the cases, we need to set the stage. We aren't looking for clinical, medical, or psychological explanations today. We're looking at the paranormal truth, the historical weight of these entities, and the undeniable fact that these experiences have been documented since humanity first started recording its fears.

Michelle: Yeah. Now let's start in London. It was 1742. Thomas was a clerk at a [00:02:00] shop at a shipping firm. He was living in a cramped room, uh, and it was near the Thames. Can you imagine how the Thames smelled back then? Ew. Mm-hmm.

Paul: Probably the way the Merrimack did 30 years ago.

Michelle: It's the only, the Merrimack was the only river in New Hampshire you could walk on if you weren't Jesus.

Michelle: Please continue. Anyway, he was a very religious man, and, um, so, you know, this account was really scary for him. He didn't believe in this stuff- Yeah ... but it happened to him anyway.

Paul: Yeah, and by all accounts, he was a perfectly healthy, normal person, right?

Michelle: Yep.

Paul: So he was that until he wasn't.

Michelle: Yep, and he was keeping- To-

Michelle: a journal ...

Paul: yep, Thomas began keeping a journal, which was later found tucked away in a dusty attic in the 1920s. He describes it as [00:03:00] not a ni- n- not as a nightmare, but as an intrusion. He would wake up unable to move a single muscle, but be fully conscious.

Michelle: Mm-hmm.

Paul: He could hear the heavy, damp air of the London night, the distant tolling of a bell.

Michelle: Now, this wasn't sleep paralysis. Mm-mm. And, um, then he'd feel a weight on his chest. Now, I know so far it sounds like it, but then after this crushing press- pressure on his chest, he would feel a force pressing him into the mattress. He couldn't scream. He couldn't do anything. But in his mind- He would start screaming, and then he would see

Paul: her He describes a figure draped in shadows hovering just above him.

Paul: He called her a creature of the pit. Oh, God.

Michelle: Mm-hmm.

Paul: She wasn't just a h- It

Michelle: was her pit ...

Paul: an [00:04:00] hallucination to him. Oh, God, that's-

Michelle: We gotta be careful how we talk about this

Paul: She was a physical presence. He could feel the c- We'll

Michelle: never get monetized.

Paul: He could feel the cold radiating from her, a chill that seeped into his bones.

Paul: He believed with absolute conviction that she was a succubus, a demonic entity feeding on his vitality and his very essence.

Michelle: Yeah. Uh, what was fascinating, Paul, is that the historical content- Mm-hmm ... in 70- in 1742 wasn't just a bad dream. It was a spiritual battle with him. Um, he implied that the forces were intimate with him.

Paul: Mm.

Michelle: Mm-hmm. That's right. Uh, people understood that these entities were real back then.

Paul: Right.

Michelle: You know, they were malev- many-

Paul: Malevolent ...

Michelle: malevolent forces. They believed that they would come into rooms of, with men like that in order to make [00:05:00] babies with them that would become demons, okay?

Paul: Oof.

Michelle: Yeah. They were looking for priests, doctors, people who were strong, things like that.

Michelle: Um, it goes back to Lilith. Now, if people don't know who Lilith was, if you, um, if you look carefully at different parts of the Bible, you'll see Lilith was, uh, Adam's first wife who, uh, was not nice to Adam, so she was driven into the wilderness and Adam was given Eve, okay? Mm. And anyway, she, um, haunted people after that.

Michelle: The legend says that she became, um, the first succubus.

Paul: Hmm.

Michelle: Yeah.

Paul: Right. So the Lilitu, or Lilitu demons, were known to be winged female entities that preyed on men in their sleep. Uh, this isn't a modern invention, it's a [00:06:00] primordial fear. When Thomas looked at th- at that figure in 1742, he was seeing the same entity that had been whispered about by ancient civilizations for thousands of years.

Michelle: That's right. Not long after, um, not long after Christianity started, this is when the Lilith, uh, succubus thing started.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: Um, it makes you wonder, though. Mm-hmm. If these entities have been documented across vast stretches of time, how can we dismiss them merely as the brain playing tricks? I mean, this guy had a...

Michelle: It wasn't, let's say, a- A night thing?

Paul: Exactly. Let's fast-forward to modern-day Chicago Sarah, who is a software developer living in a luxury high-rise. No soot-

Michelle: The story of allergies ...

Paul: no, no soot, no gaslight, no ancient superstitions. She's a [00:07:00] woman of science and a skeptic, or at least she was.

Michelle: That's true, yep. Sarah experiences... Sarah's experience started in 2023.

Michelle: Um, she too was woken up and felt paralyzed, and then her room was silent. She, except for the s- she could hear the city humming outside her door, I mean, outside her windows. Mm-hmm. And she felt a sense of crushing pressure on her body and on her chest. And when she opened her eyes, she didn't see a ghost.

Michelle: She didn't see the, a demon in the traditional sense that she would expect. Instead, she saw a man, dark, distinct, and he was leaning over her, and the sensation that she felt was very real. It was a very, [00:08:00] very real sensation.

Paul: Right. So the details are the kicker. Sarah described the same sensation of cold, the same feeling of being fed upon, the same S.A.

Paul: Thomas journal talked about, albeit in less obvious terms. She didn't call it a succubus or incubus at first. She didn't even know the difference, but when she started researching, first she found sleep paralysis. The more she looked into it, and all the videos and experts who claim this is what happened to her, the more she realized it was not.

Paul: She did not experience sleep paralysis, no matter how much she wanted to explain the event away as such. She stumbled upon both personal stories, even documented by many religions, current articles, and historical text.

Michelle: Yeah, she said it didn't feel like a dream. It didn't feel like, like the way sleep paralysis is supposed to feel like.

Michelle: Um, and [00:09:00] she wanted to know what it was. And when she h- uh, and when it... Had a little... Hey, I did the little before you this time again. And, um, she looked at things, uh, she kept looking and looking, and she felt like it began to, uh, you know, drink all her terror. It happened again and again, and the more she looked away, the more she felt like it was drinking her terror.

Paul: Yeah.

Michelle: The more she struggled, the more the pressure intensified, the more the essay was, like, intense.

Paul: Mm-hmm. Yeah, until she felt like it was shredding her body-

Michelle: Yeah, that's horrible ... which

Paul: is a horrible- Description. The terror came to a point where she passed out, and she woke up in the morning to find claw-like scratches on her inner thighs

Michelle: That does not happen with sleep paralysis, you know?

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: Being a skeptic, she was still, you know, at h- being a skeptic at [00:10:00] heart, she assumed that she must have, you know, clawed her own thighs.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: Um, she had to have. That's what she said. But then she-

Michelle: Then she stepped into the bathroom to take a shower, and when the hot water touched her back, it burned. And then, you know, she's like, "What?" So she turned around and got, got a hand mirror, looked in the, put her back to the mirror, looked like she was looking at the back of her hair, but she looked at her back, and she had the same claw marks down her back at places she could not have reached herself.

Michelle: Mm. And that's when she started going, "Oh my God, did something really happen to me?" Right.

Paul: And those scratches are not common in these encounters. They can and do happen.

Michelle: Yeah. They don't happen commonly, but they can happen.

Paul: They can happen, yep. When people think of succubus or their male counterparts, incubus, they usually jump right to the SA.

Paul: But not all [00:11:00] succubus and their male counterparts SA their victims. The goal of the attack isn't always assault. It's feeding and absorbing the life-giving energy of their victims.

Michelle: Mm-hmm.

Paul: In all of history, around the world, the parasitic nature of succubus and the incubus is, is universal. They're en- they are entities that require a human host to exist, and it appears terror is their ultimate fuel.

Michelle: That's right. So sometimes people, you know, will have, will see one, and they'll attack them. They'll sit on them, stare at them, and attack them, and suck out their life force through the terror, you know, as if it were, uh, it's like the setting doesn't matter-

Paul: That sounds like a girlfriend I once had decades ago back in the '80s.

Paul: Sorry, go ahead.

Michelle: Or, or, or my first husband. You guys know my first husband's Satan, right?

Paul: Yeah, he gets around. Yeah. [00:12:00] Excuse me. And

Michelle: it's like the setting doesn't matter. Mm. Whether it was the 1700 London or the 2026 Chicago condo, anywhere, anywhen, entities can behave the same.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: Um, they're not all an ancient hunger. Um, excuse me.

Michelle: All of them are an ancient hunger. Hungry for that force, they attack their victims. And when their victims are the most vulnerable, they do the, to them the thing- Mm ... that they know will produce the most terror.

Paul: Right. And this, this brings us to the core of the paranormal truth. We try to categorize these things to put them in boxes labeled sleep disorders, nightmares from stress, uh, but that ignores the sheer overwhelming intentionality of the experience.

Paul: What we did mention before, w- didn't mention before, is that both Thomas and Sarah felt that the entity knew them. It wasn't random. It was targeted. They both felt whatever it was had watched them [00:13:00] and sized them up before it came close enough to attack.

Michelle: Sorry. There was a passage, there's a passage in Malus Met- Uh, can you remi- say that?

Michelle: It's a old

Paul: fi-

Michelle: Malleus Maleficarum. It's a 15th century treatise. Malleus, Malleus Maleficarum. Yeah. It's a, it's a treatise on witchcraft. I actually saw it and read part of it.

Paul: Mm-hmm. It's

Michelle: really creepy. I, I read translation-

Paul: And I may well have pronounced it incorrectly, but we will, we will

Michelle: press on ... I read a translation of it once- Mm-hmm

Michelle: and I didn't get to keep it. It was somebody else's. It was really creepy. Right. Uh, it describes these entities as being able to take on physical form to manipulate the environment and interact with people who are going to be their victims, and it eviscerates, uh, lo- Does it

Paul: on a visceral level ...

Michelle: yeah, on a visceral level.

Michelle: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Makes them scared out of their freaking minds.

Paul: While many modern-day scholars dismiss that book as a product [00:14:00] of hysteria of the times, those who have actually experienced what Thomas and Sarah did find it disturbingly accurate.

Michelle: You know, it's, it's not. That book has some really mind-blowing stuff in it.

Michelle: Mm. And I don't think it's hysteria of the time. Yeah, it's not- At least not the part I

Paul: read ... not a book of su- superstition. It's a manual of observation.

Michelle: Yeah.

Paul: They were observing something that was real

Michelle: Yep, yep. And it's just absolutely amazing. Anyway, think about the folklore, think about the old hag of new f- uh, in Newfound- in Newfin- uh, la, la, la.

Michelle: Again, in Newfoundland, in the UK-

Paul: It was her. That was my old girlfriend. She was from Newfoundland.

Michelle: The New- Sorry,

Paul: go ahead. Yeah

Michelle: Yeah. In the UK, the parts of the US, uh, the same story is-

Paul: Mm-hmm ...

Michelle: found again and again. Um, something sits on your chest, it steals your breath, leaves you [00:15:00] terrified, sometimes SA'd.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: And the creature are not different. Their, uh, explanations are not strange. They're, they're universally-

Paul: Mm-hmm ...

Michelle: experiencing the same type of thing.

Paul: An objective phenomena.

Michelle: Yeah, yeah.

Paul: And that univers- universality is exactly what points to the paranormal reality. If this were just a random biological glitch, wouldn't the experience be more varied?

Paul: Why is it always the, the pressure? Why is it always the paralysis? Why is it always the feeling of being watched or fed upon? Why is there always a precursor of being hunted for weeks?

Michelle: Now, I know that they've done studies on sleep paralysis, which is actually different. Um, people who are abductees experience a sleep paralysis state.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: Um, people who have this experience a sleep paralysis state. There is a, uh, sleep disorder called sleep paralysis.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: But it's a different [00:16:00] thing. Um, sleep paralysis does cause fear because you, people wake up and they can't move, but when people wake up and they can't move, they experience fear- Mm-hmm

Michelle: because they can't move. Mm-hmm. And they're having sort of a wake dream.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: But this is very different because it's consistent.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: Absolutely consistent. It's almost like a fingerprint, though, in this case. It's a signature that an entity is operating outside of their understanding of time. Uh, or perhaps throughout all time that mankind has lived, this has m- maintained the same opera- um, opera-

Paul: How do you say

Michelle: that?

Michelle: Mo- modus operandi? Modus operandi, where sleep paralysis has changed over time. Mm-hmm.

Paul: Mm-hmm. Right.

Michelle: And even now, people who experience sleep paralysis can have different experiences.

Paul: Right. You okay?

Michelle: [00:17:00] Sorry about that.

Paul: That's okay.

Michelle: Yeah, just a little, you know, I have this allergy thing going. Yeah.

Paul: So a chilling thought, they're not just living in the, in the, uh, in, living in a, in a physical world, but that we're constantly surrounded by entities that are in a layer of our world we simply can't see unless they want us to.

Paul: We've been taught by many sources that there are many realms around the Earth where other creatures live.

Michelle: Yeah, like they're coming through- Mm-hmm ... edges or something.

Paul: And we know that some come to feast on people's energy, if you're unlucky enough to have one attached to you.

Michelle: Yeah, that is awful. Some people have dark energy attached to them.

Michelle: Mm. It's just a sad thing. What gets me about this is the common knowledge of so many cultures, um, know that this happens. Mm-hmm. And there are so many people in our modern society that denies this. Mm. And so the people in our modern society never get help for it. Mm.

Paul: And that perhaps is the most important historical issue of all, the, [00:18:00] that humanity has known this for thousands of years.

Paul: We've created rituals, written spells, we've conceived protections, all to keep these things at bay. We've forgotten how to protect ourselves, but the entities haven't forgotten how to hunt us.

Michelle: That's true. I think because of that, um, and, uh, I quote, ha, ha, I get to quote, "Civilized world, we have tried to explain it away with science.

Michelle: Uh, sure, some of these things can be logiced away." Mm. "Sometimes it can be logiced away when other things that look the same cannot be."

Paul: Mm-hmm. "

Michelle: But there are a lot of experience that remain unanswered by logic, and no matter how hard tr- science tries to explain them, they can't, cannot be answered except by the paranormal," and I am so sorry, I forgot to write down who I'm quoting.[00:19:00]

Michelle: Whoever said that, I'm sorry, but it was brilliant.

Paul: Yeah.

Michelle: Go ahead, Paul.

Paul: So before we wrap it up I think it's important to emphasize for both Thomas and Sarah, the experience didn't end with the dream, it changed them. Thomas became obsessed with studying the occult, trying to find a way to banish the entity.

Paul: Uh, in the last entry, he left his home in Lon- he left his home in London and said the, this is an interesting word, fa- con- facinorous fiend

Michelle: That, that means horri- uh, the most horrifying-

Paul: Okay. Fa- ...

Michelle: I

Paul: believe ... facinorous fiend closely pursues at my heels, which I believe translates to the extremely vile devil is chasing very close behind me.

Michelle: Ah, see, I did, um-

Paul: Right. And Sarah, she started practicing older forms of meditation. She cleared her home of unnecessary [00:20:00] electronics, and she, she's begun exploring the history of protection rituals.

Michelle: She's recorded saying-

Paul: Yeah ... "

Michelle: I don't care what the doctor said. I know what I was feeling at that time. While I, while this keeps happening to me, I am not going to let it hurt me anymore."

Paul: All right

Michelle: That's a powerful statement and a powerful stance. It's rem- it's, uh, reclamation ... It's her reclaiming her power. It's acknowledgement of the paranormal truth and refusing to be a victim of this evil creature or of her doctors, un- and she's going to sort it out.

Paul: Right. Throughout history, the succubus and incubus have been seen by many faiths as a test, a test of willpower, of faith and strength.

Paul: It's not just an attack, it's a challenge.

Michelle: There are stories of survival. There are [00:21:00] stories of people who, despite facing this thing that defies, uh, logic, were found ... They found a way to endure, to meet and beat this creature. I wish they had written it down for these people.

Paul: Yeah, right? The history of the succubus and its male counterpart is a history of humanity's struggle against the unknown.

Paul: It's a dock- dark. It's a dock. It's a dark, often terrifying fear, losing control of your will, your strength, your body, then your actual feelings of being alive, accentuated by a thread throughout humanity and the human stor- hi- and human history.

Michelle: And that history's being written one night at a time, one person at a time, one horrible experience at a time, unfortunately.

Michelle: Mm-hmm. And it might be that way until people find a way to stop it.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: I mean, this is an ancient creature- ... that's been with mankind since ancient times.

Paul: Right. [00:22:00] If I may.

Michelle: Mm-hmm.

Paul: A bodiless being who we talk to frequently often, um, has talked to us about protection, the idea of protection. And for some, you, if this fits in your toolbox, you can use it.

Paul: If it doesn't, just set it aside. Maybe one day it'll be useful. He said the idea of protecting yourself from darkness is a fallacy. Tell me if I'm phrasing this wrong. That what you should do is simply project your positive energy, your light, because light, uh, in the same way that it, when you walk into a dark room, completely dark, and light one candle, that one little candle illuminates the room, and light will always pass through darkness, and darkness does not like light.

Paul: It tends to sh- it always shrinks from it. It may take it a moment, it may take a little while, but it will always shrink from it.

Michelle: Mm-hmm.

Paul: It is like [00:23:00] fingernails scratching a chalkboard, feeling that positive energy reach it.

Michelle: Yep.

Paul: And by doing that, you're not closing yourself in, creating this tiny wall of protection.

Paul: You're growing yourself, letting yourself grow out and be light as far as you can around yourself, and wrapping yourself in-

Michelle: Right ...

Paul: in positive energy and light.

Michelle: Yeah. He said never fight fire. If you f- that old saying, "Fight fire with fire," he said if you fight fire with fire, you get a bigger fire.

Paul: Right.

Paul: Right. Darkness is not stupid.

Michelle: Mm-hmm.

Paul: Some of it is, but-

Michelle: No ...

Paul: but generally it's not stupid. It's, so you-

Michelle: Yeah. He said, y- like you said- It will trick you ... you light a candle, and- Yeah ... darkness is- Right ... away from that area. Right. So if you light a bigger candle, or you light a bonfire-

Paul: Mm-hmm ...

Michelle: darkness goes away.

Paul: Right. It'll try to trick you. Don't let it trick you. Just always come back to that one single point of being light, being the bright light.

Michelle: Well, I, it, it, you, you're giving it too [00:24:00] much, uh, credit saying- Mm ... it'll try to trick you. It's not like if you have a succubus and you, and then you project light at it, it's all of a sudden gonna turn to the Archangel Michael and say, "I wanna SA you."

Michelle: Yeah. Um, that doesn't happen.

Paul: Right.

Michelle: But it's, um, it's one of those things where if you feel that something negative is around you, um, putting up barriers and walls and saying, "Don't touch me, I'm in a ball"-

Paul: Mm-hmm ...

Michelle: is not as productive as saying, "I am projecting this light around me."

Paul: Right.

Michelle: Not a ball around me, but I am w- I want all this light around me, my family, my home- Mm-hmm

Michelle: whatever, and just, just put all this beautiful light around you.

Paul: Right.

Michelle: And that will keep it-

Paul: Right ...

Michelle: away. But makes you taste bad.

Paul: Right. And one very key thing is this type of energy, [00:25:00] unconditional love. Mm-hmm. Project unconditional love towards that, and that will be the most sour taste in the world to it.

Paul: And- Project energy in the form of unconditional love.

Michelle: And we were also told by one of our guides, if you can't love something, at least have compassion for it.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: You know- Right ... how can you have compassion for an evil being? Um- It's hard. It really is hard. But maybe you can say you have compassion because this thing has to do such dark things to live.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: You know, and say-

Paul: Right ...

Michelle: I feel bad-

Paul: Mm-hmm ...

Michelle: because this thing has to do such dark things to live, so-

Paul: Right ...

Michelle: I feel compassion for it. Doesn't mean, you know, if you can't find yourself saying, you know, this pa- this thing is part of creation, and this thing is doing what it has to do to survive- Mm ... as part of this [00:26:00] creation- Mm

Michelle: that we live in, 'cause light would mean nothing without dark.

Paul: Right. What do you say about talking and engaging with these things?

Michelle: Don't.

Paul: Yeah.

Michelle: Don't ever talk to a dark thing.

Paul: Yeah. It's, i- i- it never works out.

Michelle: Yep.

Paul: Yeah, just, just ig- ig- ignore it-

Michelle: Mm-hmm ...

Paul: in that regard, a- as far as any communication. Don't talk to it.

Paul: Yep,

Michelle: don't talk to it.

Paul: All right. Can you think of anything else before we close regarding this?

Michelle: Um, keep your eyes on the light.

Paul: Yes.

Michelle: Yep, and keep your heart open to the

Paul: light. Give yourself permission to love everything. Yep.

Michelle: Give yourself permission to love everything, or at least- Mm ... have compassion for everything.

Michelle: Right.

Paul: So-

Michelle: Oh, and one more thing.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: One of our guides said, when you get up in the morning, send love and compassion out to the universe. Just get up and if you look at the sky, look at your window, [00:27:00] look at the puppy. I don't know. Just look and send out compassion and love without any intent. Right. No intent at all.

Michelle: Mm-hmm. And you don't know where that's gonna go. It may stop, um, someone from taking a drug that's going to kill them that morning. It may stop, uh, uh, someone from doing a heinous crime. It may stop, um, a serial killer or a person who is gonna strap on a bomb and go blow up a church.

Paul: It will find its way to where it

Michelle: needs- It'll find its way to where it needs to be

Michelle: creation. It may help, uh, um, someone to go visit a shut-in, you know? Mm. Or it just may go into the sky and make a cloud move.

Paul: Mm-hmm.

Michelle: Who knows? Or it may come back to you.

Paul: Right. So with that.

Michelle: With that.

Paul: With that.

Michelle: Or all those good things.

Paul: All those good things, be good to each other, take care of one another, love each [00:28:00] other.

Michelle: Mm-hmm.

Paul: Be safe, be happy. Until we see you next time.

Michelle: And have compassion

Paul: In

Michelle: The

Paul: The spooky coop. Bye everybody.

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